Toby Ziegler: "They'll like us when we win." #

Interesting thread between Jake and Ted Howard about Frontier. #

I was looking at some of the first posts in in 1998 in discuss.userland.com and came across this post that talked about my decision to stop doing the Mail Pages, now that we had the discussion group. #

If you make a product for discourse, yet your own product can't be used for discourse about the product itself because of some limits, then you have a feature to add, and get busy. No product does everything everyone wants, but when there's a consensus among users, then you have something worth strongly considering. #

A lot of online discourse is us vs them. If you find yourself doing that, that's a sure sign that you're not working on the web. #

Jim Ray responded to my Saturday post about AT Proto. First, I've done more than kick around with ATP for the few years, I have written apps, some of which are still deployed. But I would rather continue to develop on RSS because it's not a silo, it's part of the web and imho that's where we should all be meeting. Planting seeds inside a big company's silo is not safe. If they want to shut you down, you will be shut down. They have all the power. And as long as they don't support the data format you use because of its severe limitations, you won't be able to publish on Bluesky. Imho you have no advantage using it over the web, which already does everything you need to do your own Bluesky, with none of the missing features. As long as Leaflet docs can only be read on the web, you might as well just use the standards of the web instead of betting on Bluesky's reinventions and good intentions. My opinion. And thanks for engaging in discourse, please encourage others in your community to do it too. I get my best ideas from listening to others. That's why I watch what's going on there. #

I'm working on something new here, and need a post to work on. 

You won't see this post on Scripting News, as until now all Daveverse posts came from the mother site.