That said, surprisingly Nicolle Wallace’s podcast is really good, which surprised me because her two hour afternoon MSNOW show is kind-of nothing. On this show they have a lot of time to talk with one person, and maybe there are limits on the TV show that aren’t on the podcast? Another theory, I listen to her podcast, and thus can’t see her facial expressions. On TV she looks utterly hopeless, I’m not kidding, and she’s justified. I worry about how much of this she can take. But on the podcast she comes off as she’s curious, respectful, let’s the guest speak (so many hosts don’t). She reminds me of a Diane Rehm, a podcast host on NPR through 2016. She never let her guests talk down to us, her audience, which I appreciated. A lot of times you hear a science, history or tech topic and hope you might learn something, but they only repeat the intro over and over, with a lot of giggling, of course. BTW, Diane Rehm has a new podcast. I bet it’s great, probably gets right to the point and I guarantee you there is no giggling. #